A lot of times I use the smallest one. I think it's a 3/16th. It's off the original design. Most of the time I use a smaller shakey head. When I work a shakey head, most time back east, or smallies, they tend to not, I don't fish them slow. I fish them fast. I'm kind of swimming it. That 3/16th is real fast, you flutter it, when you shake it, it kind of bounces up and then it kind of falls down slow. But that's how I fish them back east. Most time I'm moving them quick.
But out here, it tends to be a little different sometimes, you know. You've got to shake them on the bottom and once in a while snap it up off the bottom and let it fall. But back east, man, a lot of times it's just like, you're hitting the bottom occasionally and you're just kind of swimming the shakey head.
And I swim my football head out there a lot. I don't know if you guys have tried that, but that's a good method of catching smallies that I, over the years, have found that just bumping the bottom with the, kind of like swimming the jig shallow with a football head, 3/4 ounce, even one ounce or half-ounce. Been doing that a lot back east. Catching a lot of big fish doing that. But it's kind of like, you bump a rock and it kind of bounces off it and just keep it right near the bottom and just reel it. It sits there. It's almost like cranking. I do that a lot.
So it's kind of a thing that a lot of guys don't know about. But you guys don't talk a lot to those guys. They'll never find out, until they see me on TV doing it. But it's a good way of catching them, swimming a football head. I know Fred Roubanis does it a lot. He's one of the other guys I know that does it. But you'd be amazed how many guys haven't caught on to that.